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Evaporative cooling questions/experiences - Part 1 - Air con. O. P. Hey guys,I'm in the market for some evaporative cooling and I've had some quotes done. I'll be either looking at the Braemar LBC3. Breezair EHX1. 70 which I believe at similarly placed. I heard that Breezair is meant to be slightly better than the Braemar but the quote i received to have the Braemar installed is $4. What I'm wondering is, is the Breezair $4.
Braemar. Has anyone had any experience with either or both that can give some assistance? I've read the product booklets but they are just typical sales and marketing BS. So I'm more interested in peoples actual experience with either aircon. Thanks guys. Boyle.
Hi,Whilst I can't comment on the above two brands, could I suggest that you look into whatever you buy has a shut- off mechanism? Our Brivis does not, and in wintertime the cold wind blows through the vents. It is very quiet when running and for your neighbours sake it is also very quiet outside as well. It does have a shut off damper to help prevent cold air entering the house when not in use although with Canberra's very cold winters you can still feel cool air coming from the vents at times just by the cold transfering from the ceiling space into the ductwork. One of the main benefits when operating is that it is very cheap to run unlike reverse cycle air conditioning and if you have young children who come in and out of the house all the time leaving doors open you do not have to worry about losing your cool air, as evaporative cooling is at its best with plenty of doors or windows open to allow the cooled moisture laden air to escape. O. P. Thanks guys, the Braemar model claims to have an AUTOWinterseal which automatically closes the air conditioning ducts.
So hopefully that will be enough. Does anyone have or live near a Braemar unit that can comment on how loud they are? I've been told the Breezair are very quiet, but I'm just having trouble justifying spending $4.
They are both made by the same manufacturer and both have shutoff vents. They both do more or less the same job. I got the braemar and I am very happy with it, if I had the extra money would I have got the breezeair- yes. The main difference between the two is the fan blades, now I hope this makes sense, the braemar uses a fan that looks like an aeroplane propellor or ceiling fan, the breezeair fan is like a waterwheel shape, the breezair is supposed to run more efficiently and quietly. I don't have any complaints about the noise level of my braemar and it works very well, but if you can avoid it I wouldn't put either above a bedroom. The other thing is, and I'm going from memory here so check it out first, the braemar sits higher on your roof, the bottom of the breezair is at an angle and sits closer to your roof, if this is important to you it might make a difference.
If there is a cashback offer make sure you send the paperwork by registered mail. Does anyone have or live near a Braemar unit that can comment on how loud they are? I've been told the Breezair are very quiet, but I'm just having trouble justifying spending $4. As per my previous post I have a braemar, the noise from outside the house is virtuallly nil, far far quieter than a refrigerant window unit, inside the house the only place you can hear it is directly under where it is installed and even then its not annoying, the noise isn't from the unit directly it's small localised vibration running along the roofbeams. O. P. Thanks Drawlll, think I may go with the Braemar. Not too fussed about how it looks on the roof as it'll be hardly seen where it's going to be installed anyway. Boyle,I will offer my advice to you,we installed a Breezair EXH1.
I chose this unit after a lot of research & I was lucky enough to know someone that used to have their own air con installation business to offer help. Firstly you should know that you are not comparing apples with apples with the two units you have quotes for. The Braemer is only a 9. W versus the Breezair a 1. W. An evaporative units performance (unlike refrigerated) are normally sized based on number of air changes per minute, ie total volume of air that the unit can displace. But to simplify the sizing it is commonly rated in k.
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W's as above- (this is misleading if comparing to a refrigerated unit). Watch Five Thirteen Online Forbes. The Breezair has a salinty probe which dumps the water tank when it gets too salty, I think the Braemer just dumps the water based on time(uses more water).
A good installer (A) will measure the total area of the house including wet areas to calculate the size unit required. Some installers (B) will measure the floor area of the house, then deduct the wet areas to calculate the size required. Installer (B) usually wins the job because the unit installed is smaller and hence cheaper than (A). Our house is approx 1. Breezair EXH1. 50 would be enough. However on my friends advice we up sized to the EXH1. Our neighbours have a Braemer which appears to be undersized.
It runs flat out day/night and is quite loud. Our unit being over sized does not need to run flat out and often is only at half speed, resulting in quiet operation and less power consumption. Through the heat wave here last summer we were sleeping with the doona's on it was that cold inside. I strongly recommend getting the Breezair, perhaps get your Braemer guys to quote on a 1. W unit and see how it stacks up? See if you can negotiate a better warranty by paying cash, we got a 5year warranty for no extra. Showtime Full Jiro Dreams Of Sushi Online Free.
Make sure they install the drain pipe down to the ground and not into your gutters as the waste water is very salty and will ruin your gutters. Make sure they install a separate power circuit and dont tap into the power point or lighting circuit (they sometimes do this as it only needs a 1.
Also make sure they use good quality duct tape and seal the ducting well, you don't want the cool air leaking into the roof space. Lastly make sure they take all their rubbish with them. Good luck with it!! The Breezair has a salinty probe which dumps the water tank when it gets too salty, I think the Braemer just dumps the water based on time(uses more water). They both have a salinity probe and dump the water when it gets too salty or 7. Our unit being over sized does not need to run flat out and often is only at half speed, resulting in quiet operation and less power consumption.
Yes make sure you don't get anything underpowered, I found the websites that calculate the size unit that you need always underestimate the size unit, maybe this is a marketing ploy to get a salesman in the front door who then tells you a bigger unit is required. O. P. Wow, lots of information. Sorry I made a mistake in my original post and the Braemar unit is the LCB4. W (thanks Bull. 69.
Dozer) I've received 3 different quotes and two of them said a unit around the 1. W mark while Origin energy quoted one around the 9 mark. So I believe the Braemar and Breezair units I've been quoted are the correct size.
A good installer (A) will measure the total area of the house including wet areas to calculate the size unit required. They all had access to the plans of the house, so hopefully they calculated correctly.
Might see if the guys that gave me a quote on the Breezair unit can match the price I received for the Braemar. The Breezair is quieter.. Another thing make sure you read the warranty conditions carefully they require servicing visits at set intervals which you have to pay for. If you don't your warranty is void. I forgot to mention, make sure they install dampers to the ducting for each room. These are usually set once when installed and not touched again. You should test this before the installers put the roof back on and leave.
This is so that you can get maximum air where you need it, living room etc. I didn't do this and had one bedroom that you almost needed a battering ram to open the door because the damper was too far open. This meant I had to get up in the roof space to close in the damper.